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emphasis on the view that the debt ceiling deal fall short in what our view would be necessary to stabilize the government median term debt dynamics. translation, the debt ceiling deal didn't do enough about the debt itself. so keep this in mind when you hear it said,be with great certainty it's the republicans trying to force spending cuts over endangering the nation credit rating. as will rogers quoted once, "it isn'tbe what we don't know that gives us trouble. it's what we know that ain't so." bret? >> bret: the president has effectively turned the messaging around. by saying it's about paying the bills that congress has already passed. the laws that it's already passed. republicans are saying it's about borrowing authority. essentially running up the country's credit card. >> exactly. what the republicans are saying is look, we maxed out the credit card. it's time before we extend any new credit or allow any new credit to do something aboutbe the spending that got us here. that would seem on the surface to be a reasonable argument. but so far, the republicans have not been able to win i
unveil their new debt ceiling deal. we examine the good combat command ugly with americans for tax reform president grover norquist later. one ohio teacher said she has a crippling fear of being children, but is still being forced to work with them. she says it is discrimination. we have to ask our legal team about this outrageous case. for on the case next on "the willis report." ♪ ♪ gerri: almost exactly one year ago today in this prgram, in this segment we told you about the president hosting a white house event and a chilling viewers he's serious about tackling unemployment. that was his job council. a combination of academics, union reps command ceos. back in unemployment was eight and a half%. today it has fallen. it has fallen, but not far enough. and i would like to tell you that the jobs council is on the case tried to drive us to zero on employment, but the truth is it is not met in the year. the 26-member panel officially known as the president's council on jobs and competitiveness last convened on january 17th 2012. their mission expires at the end of the month unless obam
republicans are going to try to negotiate a short-term debt ceiling deal so they can try to go for a grand bargain. second-term presidencies have just been spent and filled with misspent political capital that has just eoverreach in terms of presidents looking for a legacy and overspending their political capital. that's the risk president obama -- >> interesting in this cnn poll that just come out, how is president obama handling his job as president, approve 53%, disapprove 42%. but when they are asked how is the country headed, right direction 35%, wrong direction, 57%. they approve of the president but think he's going completely in the wrong direction. he's a lucky boy, many would argue, that he's gotten a second term, given the state of the economy, given the fact that most americans think the country is going in the wrong direction. he's been given that lucky second chance. and he campaigned well. you have to give him that. what are his challenges in the second term? >> the first thing every president has to be careful of in a second term, as margaret alluded to is overreach. there'
this and more house republicans finally unveil their new debt ceiling deal. we examine the good combat command ugly with americans for tax reform president grover norquist later. one ohio teachesaid she has a crippling fear of being children, but is still being forced to work with them. she says it is discrimination. we have to ask our legal team about this outrageous case. for on the case next on "the willis report." ♪ [ male announcer ] now ny humana medicare plans come with a little extra help in the kitchen. in a first of its kind partnership with walmart, humana medicare plans now include 5% savings on great for you healthier foods at walmart! it's part of the vitality healthyfood program... and one more way humana medicare can help you choose what's good for your health and your wallet. so you can spend a little less money... and spend a little more time sharing what you know with the people who matter most. humana. ♪ ♪ gerri: almost exactly one year ago today in this program, in this segment we told you about the president hosting a white house event and a chilling viewers he's se
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-- grudgingly what you had to do, don't try it again. what happens if we have another deal, a debt ceiling deal or something that is of the same milk? >> i'm sensing both -- i can see both sides of the argument with this. i understand wanting to storm the castle, but get the foot in the door first, but at the same time, people like boehner realize they are dancing on the edge of the cliff here so to speak, in trouble of losing the entire base, ultimately the goal of the administration. they want to divorce the grassroots base from the plan party, looking two years ahead at midterm and looking at tactical issues and not the overall strategy, but a lot of this, nemo, goes back to the state level as well. who are voters going to elect to represent them in two years? how are voters holding elected officials' feet to the fire in their own state? we have to see more of that. ultimately, that's the pathway to get real change in the house, and that's really the way we're going to be able to enforce the values. neil: overcome the mainstream media, cast full of nuts and crazy and the occupy wall street g
they might do and trade off it. the debt ceiling, first of all, how big of a deal would it be to the markets in general? >> if they extended it 45 days, it would be relief. everybody is expecting march 1st problem. around december 10th looked like the president would meet the speaker. markets, beautiful rally from the december 10th to the 18th the markets rallied beautifully. from the 18th to the end of the markets dropped 4%, 4% from december 18th to the end of the year because all the good things we thought were happening behind the scenes fell apart. david: let me challenge you on that though. some people say they want to lock in the lower capital-gains tax rate at the old tax rates. therefore they were just taking their profits off the table? >> the market thought that they were going to meet in the middle in terms of the president actually giving in towards spending cuts. he pulled back on the spending cuts hardcore. i think here, looks like gop, looks like the gop will extend the debt ceiling another 45 days. that is why the market was up yesterday. the market is way ahead of this. but
was a last-minute deal to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for automatic cuts that were to take place at the end of 2012. you know those, as the sequester, which i've said many times, is a stupid name for a stupid thing that only washington could come up with. big surprise, with those sequester cuts, by the way, washington gave themselves another extension, two more months, so march 1st, america has another cliff to worry about going over. these people are really worse than a fourth grade flunkie who why not write to your constituents sand say, sorry that dog ate my homework. the mangy dog has been the american political process. america's chief export seems to be economic uncertainty. incredibly that only seems to be getting worse, what's the likelihood of this changing. >> when you have the mini cliffs ahead of us and seeing ugly politics in the next few weeks and months this might be capitulation, right? this might be this moment where you're going to see the system thrashing around, getting through this, and the optimist in see says after that you're going to have deficit reductio
is not a deal of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. gerri: what do you say to that? speaker he is gearing up for a partisan brawl. his press conference today was a little hypocritical because whe he was a senator in 2006 and george bush wanted to raise the debt ceiling he said no and called george bush failed president. gerri: one of the reporters got up and said only a few years ago you were saying that this kind of fight makes no sense, would have to have fiscal discipline. what do you say to this? speak of the president has been the beneficiary of large increases in mandatory spending because two-thirds of the spending is mandatory so he doesn't have to pass bills increase spending. the public is not aware of it, spending now 24% of gdp historically 20% of gdp. gerri: and deficits far as the eye can see. clearly this is a situation that cannot continue forever. they have said let's take it to the court. what do you make of that strategy? >> is a losing s
, increased revenues, more spending has to be part of any debt ceiling deal. that is a sentiment echoed by the president on numerous occasions since he was reelected. republicans of course in the house are set to go on their retreat this week. their key objective is to find unity. that is the ultimate object tiff for the retreat. without unity and republicans are divided in house they stand no chance of blocking any tax increases that democrats are so intent on. jenna: we'll watch in the weeks to come, doug, thank you. >> reporter: okay. jon: new troubles for boeing's airliners. troubles grounding all the 787s in japan's after one of the jets was forced to make a emergency landing today. dan springer is in seattle with the details on what happened. none of these planes have crashed, no serious injuries but still a big problem for boeing, huh? >> reporter: that's right. for more perspective, jon, worldwide there are six 787s flying. four of them left to the u.s. or coming to the u.s.. this is not a worldwide panic. this latest incident happened in western japan during a flight on all nip
that conversation in the context of the three-month debt ceiling deals. if we are going talk entitlements, is there room to push on the entitlements and suggest a larger social safety net, things like providing opportunities for poor children beginning to close the wealth gap is a priority. >> raise the health care law. i think it's very important to remember that law isn't fully operational, yet. there is -- yes, exactly. there's an enormous amount of work to do. there's a lot of resistance in the states. that's going to be a struggle. >> one piece of that is in 1997 we did a balanced budget deal. one thing that happened when that period of republicans and democrats came together was step back and as part of consolidating the budget, they shift resources. that was the deal. it was a deficit reduction deal. one thing it created was a children's health program. it's functioning today. it isn't the case of periods of deficit consolidation. it's not just cutting and grinding these things out. how to run a smarter government and run things into resources we need. they have to be willing to do
the debt ceiling, buthey will not deal with the pblem in an essential way. >> i am reading robert carroll's latest book on lbj. it looked like jack kennedy was having the same problem with the congress. evererything was being sidetracked. >> that is true. i would say this as far as what senator obama said in 2006, consistency is the hobgoblin of small mes. but there was a different attitude. we have raised the debt ceiling 70-plus times. the congress has voted to do it. there was always a sense of we are not going to vote e to rai the other guys debt ceiling but there was always the understa that we would provide the votes in the final ananalysis. the president's party y did that. right now, what you have is a situation where the republican party is reduced to its lowest standing in the history of "the wall streeeet journal" nbc poll. the only thing that is worse is john boehner, 18% favorable. this is not a formidable parker. >> "politico" spoke to some unnamed republican leaders and they said that party leadaders have appeared to shut down the government to make a point. they may need t
a mistake by trying to link the debt ceiling to a deal on spending cuts. >> in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. i don't think we should pick fights where we're in a position that we can't, in fact, in the end enforce our will. because we have no evidence of president obama's going to compromise. i think the president is deliberately seeking confrontation. he's going out of his way to bully the house republicans. >> and allen simpson, the co-founder of the campaign to fix the debt, also warning against bargaining over the debt ceiling. >> do you believe the gop should be using the debt ceiling as a leverage point to get the president to agree to the cuts? >> i think that would be a grave mistake. i don't think that would solve anything. i know they're going to try it. how far we'll go, i have no idea. if you're a real conservative, really honest conservative without hypocrisy, y
point if you remember, the president was hoping he could get a debt ceiling deal tied to the fiscal cliff negotiation. that didn't happen. the republicans gave up that negotiation. but they're hoping that the debt ceiling raising will give them the leverage that they need to get what they want when it comes to spending cuts. the president hopes though that he can by delegitimizing this idea of having the debt ceiling as a debate, have them have no leverage going into the deficit-cutting discussion or at least a lot less leverage. >> bill: the other big topic, the only other topic actually raised at the news conference yesterday other than whether or not you elect a party, president likes to have a party. was the issue of guns where the president was not specific because he hasn't seen -- or wasn't ready to list all of the recommendations that may have come out of the biden task force. but the president did express and repeat his resolve to do something about this issue of gun violence. no doubt about that, was there? >> no. while he put off getting into the details a little bit, he
for the deal, but you have also said you wouldn't vote to raise the debt ceiling. are you still firm on that? congressman yoho, can you hear me? >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was saying, yeah, you have said that you will not vote to raise the debt ceiling, however you did vote for the fiscal cliff deal. do you still stand firm on the debt ceiling position? >> we, no, sir, i didn't vote for the fiscal cliff deal. i wasn't sworn in yet. but it's like we've said -- >> you said you wouldn't vote for it, if it were you. >> right. i agree. i did not say that, but i didn't vote that way. we've raised the debt ceiling seven times, and it hasn't resolved the problem. the only thing it's done is made us go more in dead. president obama yet on his news conference said raising the debt ceiling will not raise our debt ceiling. all we've raised the debt, we have to may more interest. that in it/will increase the spending. we have a spending problem in this country. that's what we need to address. >> what is your biggest bone of content with john boehner? you've been very public about the fact that you don't thi
in these fractious squabbles over the debt ceiling but they are not going to deal with the essential problem in a meaningful way. >> i am reading robert carroll's book on lbj. jack kennedy, it looked like he was having the same problem with the congress. early on, lbj was having the same problem, that everything was being sidetracked. >> that is true. i would say this as far as what senator obama said in 2006, quoting mr. johnson. consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. there was a different attitude, and we have raise the debt ceiling 70-plus times, the congress has voted to do it, and there has always been that sense of we are not going to vote to raise the other guys debt ceiling, but there was always the understanding that we would provide the votes in the final analysis. the president's party did that. right now you have a situation where the republican party is reduced to its lowest standing in the history of the wall street journal nbc pulled to 23% favorable, 47% unfavorable. the only thing that is worse is john boehner. 18% favorable. this is not a formidable partner. >> over t
at the confirmation hearings. also congress has got to deal with the debt ceiling. we're hitting it yet again. sometime in mid-february, authorities believe. and this time it looks like republicans will be pushing for cuts and social will be on the table. finally, you mentioned vice president biden meeting today with cabinet members to finalize recommendations on guns including pushing for an assault weapons ban, but also what he said is a comprehensive approach to gun control. the nra and others don't believe in assault weapons ban can pass in congress. we'll get his recommendations tomorrow. >> thank you. >>> colin powell is speaking out on nbc's "meet the press" he endorsed chuck hagel to be the new defense secretary. he said hagel would do a great job at the pentagon. powell also fired harsh words at his own republican party. >> there's also a dark -- a dark vain of intolerance in some parts of the party. what do i mean by that? what i mean by that they still sort of look down on minorities. how can i evidence that? when i see a former governor say that the president is shucking and jivin
that two things. i think, obviously, going over or hitting the debt ceiling is a big deal, but i think the run up to the debt ceiling, this is what the beige book is telling us, bill, the run-up is a big deal and the whole question. i'm not saying it's -- it's very important to solve these issues, but i think what the market wants, what investors want and probably what the american public wants is an understanding of the process of how we make a decision. i really think at this time our democracy and how we make decisions is entirely up in the air and unclear to most people. if business understood how we got to go, then i think there would be more clarity out there. you could operate a business. >> you know, steve, i have a question to you. i know it's basically fed policy under ben, under chairman greenspan not to wade into the actual mode to solve these issues, but isn't it a bit disingenuous of the fed to talk about all this uncertainty without making any comments as to hey, you guys, you need to deal with the debt. you need to deal -- >> but, they are. bernanke makes that comment a
at that point we'll deal with the debt ceiling. so it was a way to put some pressure on mitch mcconnell. but mitch mcconnell seems to think that okay we'll pass a budget in the senate and then use that as possible leverage with the republicans in the house who might hold up the debt ceiling. >> michael: that makes perfect sense that that is what they are trying to do it is really just passing the buck. the white house held a firm line on saying we're not going to negotiate at all on this debt ceiling, and it worked. do you think this is a lesson that may carry for four years, when they see themselves posturing this way rather than what they have done on other issues? do you think this might be contagious within the white house? >> remember bill clinton and what the definition of is, is. with barack obama it's sort of what the definition of negotiation is. they will deal with the debt ceiling, and that's when you will have very active negotiations over the budget. what the house has effectively done is put this on a similar path, a similar timetable as the
're going to face it again, you know, debt ceiling stuff, what is the republican strategy in dealing with the democrats? david. >> you know, mike, i was on capitol hill this week talking to top republicans, and i'm getting a sense and you're seeing it written about as well, that they would maybe like to step away from the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can they get this president to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexing to try to attach that to a debt-limit deal. do they move beyond the debt limit, try to g
that this deal now would have to include an extension of the debt ceiling that they just got to avoid the fiscal cliff. well, he ultimately folded on that. so as a tactical matter, even in their minority position, they can look at this and see, well, there is some gain to be gotten here if we keep pushing on this. i think the flip side of this is also a big challenge for the president. if he really wants to unshackle the economy, if he wants to get more robust economic growth, does he not want to be more proactive about dealing with some of these entitlements, with dealing with the budget picture, even where he has real problems with his supposed, you know, partners in this to republicans? does he not want to take advantage of the power he has to try to advance this, to get more robust economic growth independent of his misgivings about his partners here on capitol hill. >> chuck, i think it's fair to say that harry reid was somewhat marginalized during negotiation biden sort of swooped in to save the day. what do you see as his role going forward as we edge toward these upcoming fiscal cliffs?
deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded? it happened before. remember 2011, when standard & poor's did it. that hit markets and the wider economy hard, but it didn't cause interest rates to increase. this time could be different, however, because the rest of the world is getting its act together. even successful businesses like ford are worried. here's what ceo alan mulally told me today. >> i think the most important thing to your point is that we come together around a solution that allows us to live within our means, to reduce our budget deficits, and also to deal with our trade deficits, and create an enviro
a generic body image. >>> house republicans are offering a debt ceiling deal rather than risk a new financial crisis. they will allow new government borrowing for three months, but they insist the senate must pass a budget within those three months. and to add more pressure to get a deal, they promise to withhold paychecks for whichever chamber, house or senate, doesn't pass a budget. >>> officials have issued a high surf advisory for the northern california coast this weekend. the good news -- that's just about perfect for 24 of the world's top surfers who are waxing down their boards for a big wave competition in half moon bay that starts on sunday. the bad news -- the other seven billion people in the world can't swim there. >>> that is the news. guys? back to you guys. >> thank you. >> you're from that area, aren't you -- >> yeah, yeah, no. i wouldn't ever surf. >> you're in the seven billion part. >> we'll be on the beach. >> yeah. >> i used to sit on half moon bay and watch it. exactly. >>> dylan dreyer has another check of the forecast. >> good morning, guys. a couple of birt
to be moving away from it, congress may have squabbled over the debt ceiling, but they are not going to deal with the essential problem in a meaningful way. >> i am reading a book on lbj. jack kennedy was having the same problem with congress. everything was being sidetracked, they were not going anywhere. >> that is true. i would say this, as far as what senator obama said in 2006, consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. if there was a different attitude. we have raised the debt ceiling 70-plus times. there has always been that sense of we're not going to vote to raise the other guy's debt ceiling, but there was always the understanding that we would provide the votes in the final analysis. the president's party did that. right now, what you have is a situation where the republican party is reduced to its lowest andi in the history of "the wall street journal" poll. the only thing that is worse is john boehner. 18% favorable. this is not a formidable partner. >> over the weekend, "politico" spoke to many advisers and said house republicans and party leaders appear willing to shut down
$400,000 instead of $250,000. but why didn't you deal with the debt ceiling now, why didn't you just take us over the cliff and then surely the republicans would have folded. which has not necessarily been the case. which leads to the heighten the contradictions liberal. the radicals wanted nixon to will elected because that would heighten the contradiction. if we would have just gone over the cliff, it would have created this economic disaster, and then people would have seen how extreme and out of touch these republicans are. well, maybe. if only we would have minted the platinum coin then surely people would have rallied around the president. but it doesn't really work like that. these outcomes are going to be sub-optimal like mick jagger said. >> jennifer: i loved your columns on this anybody who has served and had to negotiate realizes that you can't always get what you want. at least half of loaf is still half a loaf but if you don't get any of the loaf you go hungry, but i do understand the argument on the left that it's important for those voices to be lo
with them rather than stand with home common ground. >> eric: how about dealing with the debt ceiling and mr. boehner he won't negotiate anymore? >> the president is going to have to reach across the aisle and demonstrate sincerely he will listen and work. he has to show up for negotiations. he was an absent president when it came to negotiating some of the solutions to the big problems during his first term. he has to be part of the solution and work with congress to try to get things done. we watched george w. bush do it when he did it in a controversial election, first term and second term. first term he reached across the aisle and got tax cuts for everyone even though the united states senate switched majority control from republicans to democrats in may of his first year in office. then he worked across the aisle to get education reform done. it can happen, but it takes a president who is willing to be presidential and really lead rather than just demand. >> eric: do you think he can take a page from george w. bush. what did you advise the president at that time and what lessons from t
.s., much hinges on how washington handles this debt ceiling next. but not all, fitch said that problem is we never seem to get around to deals with the problem behind that mess. quoting fitch a riley, fundamental credit strengths are eroded by large studily declining structure budget deficit, and high and rising public debt. what fitch is not saying, but almost screaming is, the washington sons of fitches are doing not about it, they screamed it. after the cliff, get ready for the crash. i'm not surprised we could still be cut. i'm surprised that fitch has not already done so, john campbell said that triple a rated countries do not we behave this way. i'm surprised it has not already happened. what do you think? >> i know, i just, you know there isal this talk if we get into a big fight over trying to reduce entitlements and making a long-term solution to this, that fitch or some rating agencies may cut our credit rating at this point. if that is what they are doing, they have it backwards. what they should do is they should look at reducing our credit rating, if we don't -- if we do
is over. eric cantore proposes a three-month deal on the debt ceiling. some democrats are calling it a trap. i'll ask dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz what she thinks. democrats are about to drop the ball. tonight, my message to senator harry reid. plus the american people are getting ripped off by a congress that just isn't working. congressman rick nolan, there 30 years ago. he is back now and he can't believe the difference. he is wondering, are we getting paid for this? >>> is it really an admission of guilt if you don't show any remorse? >> it did not even feel wrong? >> no. it's scary. >> did you feel bad about it? >> no. even scarier. >> psychologist dr. jeffrey gardere on lance armstrong's bizarre performance last night. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. republicans surrendered today in one of his biggest fights. president obama warned republicans about taking the debt ceiling hostage. it looks like they heard the message. >> the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the un
the debt ceiling is raised. republicans want the president to cut spending before they i gree on a deal. but the president at no time seem eager for compromise. listen. >> we have to stop lurking from crisis to crisis to crisis. when there is a clear pass that requires discipline, responsibility and compromise. >> dana: yet, he showed little willingness to do so. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix fundamental problems. why do we have to have the debate every three months? >> eric: sure. start with the debt ceiling and how it came about. prior to world war i, everybody was paid. the debt we incurred was paid for through various bonds. world war i to wo
, deals contingent upon raising the debt ceiling and you yourself, related to debt or budget related maneuvers. and what many people are curious about the new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate that seems to conflict with the entire hire in the modern era of the presidents and the debt ceiling and your own debt ceiling and doesn't it suggest we're going into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about this. >> no, major, i think if you look at the history. getting votes for the debt ceiling is difficult and votes in in town are difficult. i went through this last year. what is different we never saw a situation like we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position that we came within a few days of defaulting. >> lou dobbs is the host of lou dobbs tonight on the fox business network. lou, welcome back. what an extraordinary exchange we saw the president have on that issue. basically his position was, we're raising the debt ceiling whether congress wants to or not. i'm not negotiating with them on it. i'm not followin
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